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Oct 15, 2005, 09:04 AM // 09:04
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Oct 2005
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IWAY Build from CWz Guild
TAKEN FROM THE CWZ GUILD.
THEY RUN THE PERFECT IWAY AND HAVE WON HALLS MANY TIMES. THEIR NORMAL FAME PER DAY IS 100. The Carwasherz Forum AXE IWAY "Warrior Strength: 11 Axe Mastery: 14" "Ranger Beast Mastery / Wilderness Survival: 11" (1) Tiger's Fury (2) Cyclone Axe (3) Eviscerate / Penetrating Blow (4) Axe Rake / Disrupting Chop "I Will Avenge You!" Charm Animal ALTERNATIVE Resurrection Signet Alternative: Edge of Extinction / "Charge!" / "Shields Up!" / Sprint Details: Penetrating Blow, Disrupting Chop, "Charge!". This IWAY is not meant to chase. Axe is all about adrenaline and, to start doing damage, you need to build it up with Tiger's Fury. Soothing Images will disable this build. SWORD IWAY "Warrior Strength: 11 Swordsmanship: 14" "Ranger Beast Mastery / Wilderness Survival: 11" Storm Chaser / Sprint (1) Hundred Blades Hamstring Savage Slash / Revive Animal "I Will Avenge You!" Charm Animal ALTERNATIVE Resurrection Signet Alternative: Winnowing / Predatory Season Details: Wilderness Survival = Storm Chaser, Savage Slash, Winnowing / Beast Mastery = Sprint, Revive Animal, Predatory Season. This IWAY is meant to take soft targets and to chase after runners. Energy degen will disable this build. Tainted Well Necromancer "Necromancer Death Magic: 15 Soul Reaping: 10" "Elementalist Air Magic: 9 Water Magic: 6" (2s) Well of Profane (2s) Well of Suffering (B) Consume Corpse (1b) Tainted Flesh Maelstrom (A) Shard Storm (C) Windborne Speed Resurrection Signet Details: This build is very tricky and it all depends on your situation. Do Tainted Flesh on the last 10 second mark. If they ball up, use Maelstrom. If it is a normal situation, you use Well of Profane and then Well of Suffering. If you see someone running towards you, use Shard Storm on him and then Windborne Speed yourself. If you have nowhere else to go but only to run around in the same circle, you do Consume Corpse and Windborne Speed instead. ORDER "Necromancer Blood Magic: 15 Soul Reaping: 11" "Ranger Wilderness Survival: 10" Storm Chaser (1-4) Order of Pain (2-5) (A) Order of the Vampire Barbed Trap (6) Healing Spring (3) (B) (ii) Troll Unguent (i) Dryder's Defenses Resurrection Signet Details: The primary idea is to do your Order of Pain and Order of Vampire without dieing or get killed. Normally this person will be taking care of the Ghostly Hero. Barbed Trap the areas around you. Use your Storm Chaser when you need it. IWAY Build 1 Sword IWAY Sprint, Revive Animal, Predatory Season 1 Sword IWAY Storm Chaser, Savage Slash, Winnowing 1 Axe IWAY Edge of Extinction 1 Axe IWAY "Shields Up!" 1 Axe IWAY Sprint 1 Axe IWAY Penetrating Blow, Disrupting Chop, "Charge!" 1 Order 1 TWN Details: Heals comes from Predatory Season, Order of Vampire and "I Will Avenge You!". Winnowing, Order of Pain and Order of Vampire triggers Predatory Season, giving you 5hp per number damage. Damages comes from the warriors, Order of Pain, Order of Vampire and Winnowing. Your escape comes from either Sprint, Charge, or Storm Chaser. IWAY is a self heal build that requires no monk. The biggest problem is not being able to heal others. Edge of Extinction is good when we are winning and dont want them to heal or continue to survive. (EDGE OF EXTINCTION IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR NOOB PLAY) Revive Animal when pets are dead and are needed for next battle. "Shields Up!" are great against ranger builds. Disrupting Chop and Savage Slash are against Aegis, Guardian, Healing Seed and Shielding Hands casters. The build have no problem running relics especially with Windborne Speed. Primary job for TWN is Tainted Flesh, Well of Suffering and Well of Profane off the bodies. MS is to counter ball foes. The required Sword and Axe mix prevents group from either being hexed by Soothing Images or energy degen. |
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Oct 15, 2005, 09:16 AM // 09:16
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2005
Profession: N/Me
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Seems a pretty standard IWAY team, except for the sword warriors
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Oct 15, 2005, 10:34 AM // 10:34
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
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"perfect" AND "iway build" just doesnt fit together!
iway teams look so goddamn retarded if they try to defend their ghostly hero or when they fight against lose ele or mesmer formations that actually work against them. most ridiculous fact of all the iway crap is that none of them ever uses mark of pain. Last edited by Ollj; Oct 15, 2005 at 10:44 AM // 10:44.. |
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Oct 15, 2005, 10:51 AM // 10:51
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2005
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pretty standard. but maelstrom is funny
and 100 fame per day isn't awesome. I never met the CWZ Guild in tombs, so I don't know how good they are - but keep in mind: a good team will win with nearly every build, a bad team will loose with nearly every build. |
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Oct 15, 2005, 03:48 PM // 15:48
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Watching IWAYers miss from constant Aegis: $15
Power Leaking that damn death necro: $10 Watching one of them kill all the others with Spiteful Spirit: $15 Dropping their hero at 1:59 because they have no healing: Priceless. |
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Oct 15, 2005, 04:03 PM // 16:03
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Academy Page
Join Date: Oct 2005
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LoL
are u serious CWz ? lmao they suck and so as their build nuff said.. why the hell whould u run iway as a guild build *no offense Warrior Nation * WN atleast runs it better lmao CWz |
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Oct 15, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: nowhere
Guild: none
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[QUOTE=Schorny]pretty standard. but maelstrom is funny
Maelstrom for ball up grups like me :-D but its stil easy 2 win |
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Oct 15, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2005
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mhm, oh - it's already there maelstorm is just laughable against a ball. |
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Oct 16, 2005, 02:15 PM // 14:15
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Melbourne, Florida.
Guild: [HTR]
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Carwasherz suck solely because they run IWAY. If they didn't run IWAY they might be at least decent.
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Oct 16, 2005, 02:40 PM // 14:40
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2005
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IWAY Builds have nothing to do with skill.
You can run IWAY and be a GW god and you can run IWAY and be a total dumbass. And you can run IWAY and be something in between There are good IWAY Teams out there - what really is a sign of lack of (social) skill is *-hate. ATM IWAY-hate is pretty common and you can easily tell which people lack basic social skill |
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Oct 16, 2005, 03:44 PM // 15:44
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Chicago
Guild: Idiot Savants [iQ]
Profession: Mo/
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im sorry but ive never even heard of this guild. neither has my guild, i just asked them, so they clearly cannot hold. and iway is still such a joke. sure you can run it perfectly, but it will never ever beat a good team no matter how well you run it. what you are doing here is just encouraging newbs to run this, but they already are, so i dont see the point.
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Oct 16, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
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I've never heard of them either.
The trouble with IWAY is that they have no hex removal, little if any enchantment removal, no shutdown, and rely on their big scary warriors running around to kill things. Put another way, they have no counters to the counters to warriors. This leaves opponents free to shut down their necros, hex their warriors, and rotate triple (or, in my guild's new build, quadruple) Aegis, ball up and own them with AoE (after putting Migraine on their death necro, of course, to stop putrid -- and they can't do anything about it) IWAY is like playing PvE, where you're against a script instead of living, reacting humans. You can predict exactly what the AI will do, and if you're clever and good enough you can beat it. IWAY teams are more of a depersonified force than a team. This anecdote will illustrate that. In Halls the other day, pRp (Patient Relaxed People) showed up. Our Vent loop was full of people pondering what sort of Ranger spike they were running at the moment, and how best to beat them. I still remember people discussing, while we waitied, whether their Me/N (#5) had 16 fast casting or not. (Embryo swore he did.) Discussions of the weak points of their team ensued -- the consensus was that the Me/N had to die before anything else. iQ showed up, and everyone was saying "Aww, man, *these* guys?" Some other balanced team showed up, with dual hammer warriors running around making a real mess, and it felt like we were playing against a real team, reacting to what we did. IWAY shows up. They've got the bye, while the other side has two teams fighting. On Vent: "Let's go DP them. We don't want to get hit from the rear at 2:00." I still remember these teams, even to the number of that damn Lingering Curse fastcaster. But the IWAY team was just another nameless, faceless clone team -- like a robot in a robotic army of {6x W/R, 1x N/Mo, 1x N/Me}, descended like a scourge on Tombs. Last edited by Entropius; Oct 16, 2005 at 05:33 PM // 17:33.. |
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Oct 16, 2005, 05:56 PM // 17:56
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Banned
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him.
Guild: Sand Scorpions [SS]
Profession: W/Mo
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all i ever heard of the carwasher guild is that a friend of a friend left his old guild, which had something to do with a carwasher guild, to join a different guild.
and ive never seen them win halls, but ive been away for the past week |
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Oct 17, 2005, 08:02 AM // 08:02
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Vandal Hearts [VH]
Profession: W/
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im flattered someone would go thru the trouble of copy and pasting from our guild forum the way we run iway. *sigh* im tired of hearing there are so many ways to counter that group would do nothing against an none iway team we never held the hall we held the hall for like an hour at one point with a healer henchie and a mage henchie FTW knocking down lara valor/prp teams back down to the unworthy more then 1 time if you can name a top holding guild/group chances are we beat them on the way to halls and in halls WN sux as a guild we are like 10-0 vs them we run iway when there is nothing else to do and we are bored and want to get a quick tombs group going on like every build it has it weakness its just we have a high win to loss ratio on a normal day we get around 100 fame on a good day 200++ flame iway all you want cuz at the end of the its still gonna be around and most hate iway becuz they loss to it all the time a lost is a lost take and it dont complain it
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Oct 17, 2005, 08:22 AM // 08:22
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Dear Sir, You are being flamed because: [X] Your post is nearly unreadable because you have horribly mangled: ....[X] Grammar ....[ ] Spelling ....[X] Capitalization ....[X] Punctuation [X] Your post reflects a near-unbelievable level of hubris [ ] You are suggesting tactics that, with a minute of thought, you would realize were untenable [X] Your post is incoherent [X] You crossposted both your post and your reply to gwonline.net [ ] You demand nerfs to skills that beat you even if they do not need it [X] You apparently didn't read replies to your post before writing your rebuttal Sincerely, Galen / Entropius |
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Oct 17, 2005, 03:17 PM // 15:17
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Vandal Hearts [VH]
Profession: W/
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*sigh* flame on flame on fact of the matter is that you guys are trying to bash us and chances are you probable went against us and lost to our iway. if you guys are pissed off at iway fine so be it like i said most ppl hate what they cant beat and you cant beat iway so take your losses and piss off. how many of you people actually been to halls...let alone win the hall and hold for a nice little run, chances are 50% of you havent.
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Oct 17, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Paper Airplane Pilotz
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Stop Bashing IWAY
The truth of the matter is this, there is a counter to every type of team out there. Some are better at holding alters, some are better at relic runs, and so on and so on. If there is an easy counter to IWAY then just run it, why sit here and insult the people who run IWAY? If they suck and IWAY sucks then everyone must never loose to it. I am a proud member of CWz and our team has fought toe to toe with most of the best Guilds out there. Not only that, but most of the really great guilds that hold halls have no problem with us. All of us are friends with Power of My Rangers, and the people from prp, and some of the people from Prav, and most of the people from Furious Kittens. We have also beaten and been beaten by all of the aforementioned groups. The difference between them and the people on this forum is that they keep it polite and fun. So we'll go back to halls now, thank you for your derogatory comments, though it's likely you'll never get the chance to sling them from the other side of an actual battlefield. And if by chance we see you there, we'll keep it civil, even when we win.
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Oct 17, 2005, 03:36 PM // 15:36
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Paper Airplane Pilotz
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Just as an afterthought. Last night, we were in halls against Power of My Rangers team. Power walked over to our stairs and played Rock, Paper, Scissors with our team until the last 3 minutes. Note the lack of animosity. Thank you for your time.
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Oct 17, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: car washers
Profession: N/E
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to all you ppl saying car washerz are noobs and iway is stupid, i have this to say to you: (and not only because im one of the 3 necros of the guild, but because YOU are the noobs if you say that)
1-we own all major guilds of this game with our iway team. embassey, power of my rangers and also own prav 3 times on 5, name the guilds, we can own them. 2-WE are the only guild who knows how to use this build at top efficiency. 99% of ppl doin tombs get owned with iway in the first 2 maps. 3-we know exactly how to do maps and hold hall with iway. the problem is not iway, its the ppl trying to hold the hall. most ppl dont know how to do that. you can hold hall with any build as long as you know how to do it and as long as you know your build....a thing most PUGS dont know. 4-to all ppl who dont know us, stfu instead of flaming us and say cwz sucks. ALL ppl we take as pug when we need someone want to join our guild. why ? because we make it to hall 98% of time with iway. ask members of powers of my rangers what they think of our guild. they respect us and we respect them. why ? because we respect ppl when we do a match and we dont talk shit like a lot of ignorant ppl do and...most importantly...they know we are a menace to any build. 5- you said maelstrom is for noobs ?...ROFL (rofl 1000 times) i wont say more about maelstrom..i will let you discover by yourself what it does in hoh. grow up a little and come back post again when you will know what it does. i can understand you are still rank 0 and you still need to learn. 6- why ppl keep saying igay -iway is for noobs and other shit ? why ?...hehehe. because ppl are afraid of iway...of OUR iway. ppl spend sometimes 1 hour building a team and they got wiped out in 2 minutes when they meet us. they think of a damn good build and still, they dont stand the road against us. i can understand you are pissed off against iway, but its not the way to think. iway is as good as any other build and its about time you ppl realize it. 7 - to those who think that iway is meant only to easy fame farm and any noob can run it....you are WRONG. iway require a good organization, vent, and 2 good necros. you think "i will avenge you" is the only key to succeed in this build ? ...wrong again. only a strong iway team can make it to hall and win it. that is why 99% of iway teams out there are not good. im only asking you ppl to THINK before you say something next time. im also asking those crappy guilds that are afraid of us to shut up instead of talk shitting on us. maerik orth (necro/ele) xxx apocalypse xxx ( iway tank) proud member of the car washerz guild |
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Oct 17, 2005, 04:05 PM // 16:05
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: car washers
Profession: N/E
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oh...i forgot one thing: im looking forward to see CONSTRUCTIVE AND INTELLIGENT post from you
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